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Perché chi è che difende gli LCD LG qui dentro?😁

Sono TV assolutamente mediocri,forse vanno bene per l'utente medio che guarda il DDT,stop.

Gli OLED di LG sono come Diletta Leotta e la Littizzetto.


Ce ne sono stati fidati XD.

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La nitidezza purtroppo "inventa" dettagli per dare una "spigolosità"(non saprei dirti il termine tecnico) maggiore all'immagine. E' consigliata ad esempio per quando si hanno fonti a bassa risoluzione.Ma se si è vicini al nativo il consiglio di metterla a 0 o poco più è quello più sensato.

A 0 non mi piace proprio, perde troppo dettaglio. Ho visto su YouTube diverse persone che la impostano sopra 30, attivando anche la super resolution che però io non uso.

Il paragone sembra simile a quei video in cui mostrano la differenza di dettaglio tra PS4 base e PS5 XD la prima è un po' impastata, la seconda invece super dettagliata, io non ho dubbi, poi ognuno scelga l'impostazione che preferisce, ci mancherebbe.

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A 0 non mi piace proprio, perde troppo dettaglio. Ho visto su YouTube diverse persone che la impostano sopra 30, attivando anche la super resolution che però io non uso.

Il paragone sembra simile a quei video in cui mostrano la differenza di dettaglio tra PS4 base e PS5 XD la prima è un po' impastata, la seconda invece super dettagliata, io non ho dubbi, poi ognuno scelga l'impostazione che preferisce, ci mancherebbe.

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Sembra ti risulti parecchio difficile accettare un parere diverso dal tuo. Avevi concluso bene con un saluto, ma evidentemente era chiedere troppo :D

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Per esperienza diretta ho sempre sconsigliato i nanocell di Lg,venendo ogni volta assalito...mi spiace tu sia costretto a rivenderlo,purtroppo tutta l'incredibile qualità degli oled lg,va a scontrarsi con una qualità bassissima per quanto riguarda i LED.

 

 

credo che nemmeno lg oserebbe difendere i nanocell  :gad2:



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Dovrei prendere un TV nuovo, mi servirebbe qualche consiglio. Vi lascio qualche indicazione, grazie in anticipo per l'aiuto che mi darete.

Tra i 42 e i 49 pollici

Usato per vedere film, sport, gaming (in egual misura direi).

Range tra gli 800 e i 1000 euro (poi ad esempio se c'è un modello imperdibile e super top che costa 1200 per esempio consigliatelo pure).

Mi piacerebbe provare un LG OLED

Assolutamente no Samsung, i colori dei loro pannelli non rientrano nei miei gusti.

Grazie :D

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Dovrei prendere un TV nuovo, mi servirebbe qualche consiglio. Vi lascio qualche indicazione, grazie in anticipo per l'aiuto che mi darete.

Tra i 42 e i 49 pollici

Usato per vedere film, sport, gaming (in egual misura direi).

Range tra gli 800 e i 1000 euro (poi ad esempio se c'è un modello imperdibile e super top che costa 1200 per esempio consigliatelo pure).

Mi piacerebbe provare un LG OLED

Assolutamente no Samsung, i colori dei loro pannelli non rientrano nei miei gusti.

Grazie :D


Ti sei risposto da solo.lg OLED c1 da 48 pollici

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Ti sei risposto da solo.lg OLED c1 da 48 pollici



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Questo?

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Hands-on: Sony A95K QD-OLED, X95K miniLED LCD & other 2022 TVs

 

 

A95k un mostro :dribble: e ha un dimming praticamente nullo coi loghi statici (confrontato con a90j)

 

 

X95k quasi una mezza delusione, soffre comunque tanto di blooming e la ritengon comunque inferiore agli oled
 
X90k praticamente sempre quello
 
 
 

Hands-on with Sony QD-OLED We were most excited to see the Sony A95K, especially after seeing Samsung Display's QD-OLED panels and Samsung Electronics' QD-OLED TV. We consider QD-OLED the next step for display technology and Sony's A95K did not disappoint. A95K is an elegant TV with a thin bezel and a very heavy, flat tabletop stand that can be placed behind the TV (to hide the stand and make the TV lean back slightly) or in front of the TV (to make the TV stand up straight). Like most OLED TVs, A95K is fitted with a rather large electronics box and the upper part is not particularly thin either. What you see at the top is a cutout socket for Sony's optional camera.

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Sony A95K QD-OLED TV. Photo: FlatpanelsHD
Picture quality is excellent. A95K has all of the QD-OLED characteristics that we have previously detailed. Very deep blacks, higher brightness than regular OLED TVs, pure and saturated colors even at high luminance levels, and more or less perfect viewing angles. Pixel-level luminance and color control together with deep blacks is the combination that creates those wonderful pictures on OLED TVs, and it is taken even further on QD-OLED. Also read: First look: QD-OLED displays In one demonstration Sony compared the A95K QD-OLED TV to last year's A90J OLED TV, which is one of best TVs on the market today. Sony had initially set both TVs to Vivid mode to demonstrate QD-OLED's higher overall brightness, higher peak brightness, and better color saturation (for higher Rec.2020 color gamut coverage). There is not much new to add here. Vivid mode is not a good starting point but it is meant to show that QD-OLED has advantages over WOLED in brightness and color, said Sony. Photos below are mainly to show you the setup, don't form conclusions based on them.

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Sony A95K QD-OLED TV (left) and Sony A90J OLED TV (right), both in Vidid mode. Photo: FlatpanelsHD

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Sony A95K QD-OLED TV (left) and Sony A90J OLED TV (right), both in Vidid mode. Photo: FlatpanelsHD

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Sony A95K QD-OLED TV (left) and Sony A90J OLED TV (right), both in Vidid mode. Photo: FlatpanelsHD
For the next demonstration, Sony had both A95K and A90J running in a manually calibrated picture mode. Comparing the two screens with 4K SDR content revealed no relevant differences to speak of, which is hardly surprising with the two screens operating in standard dynamic range, i.e. Rec.709 color gamut and lower peak brightness. With 4K HDR content, we observed some differences with A95K delivering more saturated colors in some scenes. It also had more headroom in brightness. However, the differences were subtle in the video clips we saw – A90J is already an excellent OLED TV.

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Sony A95K QD-OLED TV (left) and Sony A90J OLED TV (right), both calibrated. Photo: FlatpanelsHD
A more interesting observation happened after 10-15 minutes of talking to Sony's representatives towards the end of our presentation. A95K and A90J were left idle in the Google TV menus and after a while A90J initiated its dimming algorithm to reduce the risk of burn-in. A95K remained bright and alive. I pointed out the difference which surprised even the Sony representatives – they had received the sample only a few days before. It is not as evident from the photo as it was standing there but it could suggest that the QD-OLED panel employs a less aggressive anti-burn-in dimming algorithm for static images or gaming content with a map, HUD etc. We did not have time to investigate further but we will examine this aspect more in-depth once we get our hands on a review sample.

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The Sony A95K QD-OLED (left) did not dim but Sony A90J OLED TV (right) did. Photo: FlatpanelsHD
Sony has applied its 'Acoustic Surface' actuator-based speaker technology to A95K so using the actual OLED panel as speakers obviously works with Samsung Display's QD-OLED panel too. We heard in action and to our ears it sounded quite similar to previous Sony OLED TVs, meaning sound is coming directly from the picture aided by two small built-in subwoofers. If you want more oomph you use the 'Acoustic Center Sync' system to pair the TV to a Sony soundbar and still use the TV's speakers as the center channel. How much will QD-OLED cost? The only indication that Sony gave us is that the $8000 figure that is floating around on the web is not accurate. A95K will launch in 55- and 65-inches only as these are the only panel sizes Samsung Display will mass-produce initially. That is a shame because enthusiasts who are looking for the best of the best will often want something larger than 65 inches. Maybe next year. A90K was not on display but Sony was eager to point out that its first 42-inch OLED TV, together with the 48-inch A90K, are fully equipped "gaming TVs" with HDMI 2.1 bandwidth, VRR, and the 'Perfect for PlayStation 5' features. However, they only have two HDMI 2.1 ports (only Z9K has three HDMI 2.1 ports). VRR did not work in any of the pre-production samples – and unsurprisingly Sony did not have an Xbox Series X console available either – but VRR will work in the 2022 models from launch, the company confirmed at CES. We are of course also still waiting for Sony to release the VRR update for PlayStation 5 and the company did not provide any update on timing. Sony's more affordable A80K OLED TV was on display but unfortunately not working.

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Hands-on: Sony A95K QD-OLED, X95K miniLED LCD & other 2022 TVs

 

 

A95k un mostro :dribble: e ha un dimming praticamente nullo coi loghi statici (confrontato con a90j)

 

 

X95k quasi una mezza delusione, soffre comunque tanto di blooming e la ritengon comunque inferiore agli oled
 
X90k praticamente sempre quello
 
 
 

Hands-on with Sony QD-OLED We were most excited to see the Sony A95K, especially after seeing Samsung Display's QD-OLED panels and Samsung Electronics' QD-OLED TV. We consider QD-OLED the next step for display technology and Sony's A95K did not disappoint. A95K is an elegant TV with a thin bezel and a very heavy, flat tabletop stand that can be placed behind the TV (to hide the stand and make the TV lean back slightly) or in front of the TV (to make the TV stand up straight). Like most OLED TVs, A95K is fitted with a rather large electronics box and the upper part is not particularly thin either. What you see at the top is a cutout socket for Sony's optional camera.

sony2022handson_2_small.jpg

Sony A95K QD-OLED TV. Photo: FlatpanelsHD
Picture quality is excellent. A95K has all of the QD-OLED characteristics that we have previously detailed. Very deep blacks, higher brightness than regular OLED TVs, pure and saturated colors even at high luminance levels, and more or less perfect viewing angles. Pixel-level luminance and color control together with deep blacks is the combination that creates those wonderful pictures on OLED TVs, and it is taken even further on QD-OLED. Also read: First look: QD-OLED displays In one demonstration Sony compared the A95K QD-OLED TV to last year's A90J OLED TV, which is one of best TVs on the market today. Sony had initially set both TVs to Vivid mode to demonstrate QD-OLED's higher overall brightness, higher peak brightness, and better color saturation (for higher Rec.2020 color gamut coverage). There is not much new to add here. Vivid mode is not a good starting point but it is meant to show that QD-OLED has advantages over WOLED in brightness and color, said Sony. Photos below are mainly to show you the setup, don't form conclusions based on them.

sony2022handson_5_small.jpg

Sony A95K QD-OLED TV (left) and Sony A90J OLED TV (right), both in Vidid mode. Photo: FlatpanelsHD

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Sony A95K QD-OLED TV (left) and Sony A90J OLED TV (right), both in Vidid mode. Photo: FlatpanelsHD

sony2022handson_7_small.jpg

Sony A95K QD-OLED TV (left) and Sony A90J OLED TV (right), both in Vidid mode. Photo: FlatpanelsHD
For the next demonstration, Sony had both A95K and A90J running in a manually calibrated picture mode. Comparing the two screens with 4K SDR content revealed no relevant differences to speak of, which is hardly surprising with the two screens operating in standard dynamic range, i.e. Rec.709 color gamut and lower peak brightness. With 4K HDR content, we observed some differences with A95K delivering more saturated colors in some scenes. It also had more headroom in brightness. However, the differences were subtle in the video clips we saw – A90J is already an excellent OLED TV.

sony2022handson_10_small.jpg

Sony A95K QD-OLED TV (left) and Sony A90J OLED TV (right), both calibrated. Photo: FlatpanelsHD
A more interesting observation happened after 10-15 minutes of talking to Sony's representatives towards the end of our presentation. A95K and A90J were left idle in the Google TV menus and after a while A90J initiated its dimming algorithm to reduce the risk of burn-in. A95K remained bright and alive. I pointed out the difference which surprised even the Sony representatives – they had received the sample only a few days before. It is not as evident from the photo as it was standing there but it could suggest that the QD-OLED panel employs a less aggressive anti-burn-in dimming algorithm for static images or gaming content with a map, HUD etc. We did not have time to investigate further but we will examine this aspect more in-depth once we get our hands on a review sample.

sony2022handson_9_small.jpg

The Sony A95K QD-OLED (left) did not dim but Sony A90J OLED TV (right) did. Photo: FlatpanelsHD
Sony has applied its 'Acoustic Surface' actuator-based speaker technology to A95K so using the actual OLED panel as speakers obviously works with Samsung Display's QD-OLED panel too. We heard in action and to our ears it sounded quite similar to previous Sony OLED TVs, meaning sound is coming directly from the picture aided by two small built-in subwoofers. If you want more oomph you use the 'Acoustic Center Sync' system to pair the TV to a Sony soundbar and still use the TV's speakers as the center channel. How much will QD-OLED cost? The only indication that Sony gave us is that the $8000 figure that is floating around on the web is not accurate. A95K will launch in 55- and 65-inches only as these are the only panel sizes Samsung Display will mass-produce initially. That is a shame because enthusiasts who are looking for the best of the best will often want something larger than 65 inches. Maybe next year. A90K was not on display but Sony was eager to point out that its first 42-inch OLED TV, together with the 48-inch A90K, are fully equipped "gaming TVs" with HDMI 2.1 bandwidth, VRR, and the 'Perfect for PlayStation 5' features. However, they only have two HDMI 2.1 ports (only Z9K has three HDMI 2.1 ports). VRR did not work in any of the pre-production samples – and unsurprisingly Sony did not have an Xbox Series X console available either – but VRR will work in the 2022 models from launch, the company confirmed at CES. We are of course also still waiting for Sony to release the VRR update for PlayStation 5 and the company did not provide any update on timing. Sony's more affordable A80K OLED TV was on display but unfortunately not working.

 

Quanto costerà QD-OLED? L'unica indicazione che Sony ci ha fornito è che la cifra di $ 8000 :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: tutto bello ma anche un costo eccessivo 


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Questo?


Si.fino a lunedì era in promo a 935 dappertutto

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Si.fino a lunedì era in promo a 935 dappertutto


Ho rosicato ma l'ho preso lo stesso. Grazie :D avete anche qualche video/link per la calibrazione ecc?

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In realtà Oled è lo standard da anni, se guardi le classifiche dei top tv, per gaming o altro, troverai sempre gli Oled come riferimento, io stesso li uso dal 2016 con molta soddisfazione.

A mio modesto parere investire 500/600 euro per un prodotto mediocre che dovrai tenere per minimo 3/4 anni son soldi buttati quando con poco di più quei 3/4 anni li passeresti godendo di una delle migliori immagini possibili.

Se puoi vendi il tv che hai comprato fino a che ha un po di mercato e con il ricavato prendi un belloled.


Sarebbe il secondo che rivendo in due settimane 😅

Per fortuna sono riuscito a rivendere lLG quasi a prezzo pieno.

Comunque giusto per abbassare un poco la qualità del Topic

LHisense è arrivato
Pagato meno dell LG 2021 e a parte calibratura iniziale che si presenta migliore sul Nanocell per il resto non cè Storia..
Una volta tarati i colori è due spanne sopra.

Cioè parliamo di Un Uled Full Array con HDR, Dolby vision e Dolby Atmos . Ma non che sono messi lì tanto per ma funzionano alla grande Local dimming che funziona bene. Per ora sono contento così 😊

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Quanto costerà QD-OLED? L'unica indicazione che Sony ci ha fornito è che la cifra di $ 8000 :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: tutto bello ma anche un costo eccessivo 

Chissa quanto dinere servira per un 55 pollici.
4000/5000 euro??

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Beh i primi oled LG Full hd costavano pure 6000euro. In due anni avremo prezzi QD oled abbordabili.






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